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Old 08-01-2004, 08:54 AM
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Smile Military 2P flight time?

This may be kind of a weird one…. But I’m finally working on a General Aviation Instrument Rating and, common theme here ->, trying to get the most loggable hours for the $$$ with the family budget.

I’m in the military with weapons system/navigator training/experience. Flew “front seat” T-34’s back in ’96 for about 15 flights with instructor in the back (even flew aerobatics). Then on to the back seat for instrument training in the T-34 and right seat in the Beechjet (T-1).

Since then, hundreds of hours F/A-18, F-16, E-2C (and even the UH-1W Cobra….which is a trill a minute BTW!). Since I am a navigator/weapons systems guy, I cannot (and will not) log any as PIC.

I finally broke down and got my PPL SEL last winter and am working on instrument rating. I have been logging F-16 time (the only single-engine) in my GA logbook as 2P, dual received, etc. since there is flight controls/instruments and I will surely die just as fast as the guy in the front seat if either one of us drive into a mountain or another plane.

Question is, does it seem right/wrong to anybody to log the T-34 time from back in ’96 while I was up in the front at the controls? I understand that would not be PIC, but it WAS time on the stick and every hour counts (especially since baby on the way and I entered the military too long ago [‘83] to have a GI Bill for IFR training).

Also have plenty of multi-time in the bag (F/A-18, E-2C, E-2C full motion simulator), that I will be asking about once I can find a twin around here for that ticket too.

I’ve received a fair mix of “yes-but, yes, no, no-but” answers from all over, and the FAR’s address military PIC’s only (as far as I can find).

Thanks for any advice/wisdom/encouragement/donations!
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