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Thanks for the reply.
I was hoping the 140 or a 140 w/160 hp would work since it fits the budget better but such is life. The archer would be next on my list but I would then I would need partners. I've heard that the 180hp conversion for the C172 is mostly done for the increase in gross weight and doesn't change the take off performance. Once in the air at the strip, I could glide to a farm field(not that I want to try it). It took less than half of the strip to get off the ground in december but I was mostly trying not to target fix on the trees on the sides of the strip to get an accurate measurement. If we by a plane, I'll have a chain saw party before flying into it again!
Again thanks for the reply
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