Rudder in Stalls and Banks

[Dull Prop]

Student pilot... only a couple hours in dual..
I understand the torque effect on a single engine plane.. Basically, applying a bit of right rudder to compensate... When performing a bank, is the norm to apply slight rudder in the same direction?.. (Left 30 degree bank with left rudder).. Also, as the instructor was demonstrating a 'power loss' stall, he reduced trottle, pitched back and put the plane in a stall as the speed decreased..the nose dropped and he applied throttle, reduced pitch and the plane recovered smooth and level... I tried the same, and as the nose dropped the left wing dropped 'fast', and he applied full right rudder to correct for me.. So, I concluded that during banks.. I intially apply the same direction in rudder.. (unless the turn indicator shows 'slip'..then I apply the same rudder as the ball indicates... But, when I want to correct the plane (as when the wing drops) I apply rudder in the direction that I want the plane to go..
i.e., If the left wing drops, I apply right rudder... (the slower the speed, the greater the rudder amount...)... Please correct if I am wrong... Best to learn it right FIRST...
Thanks,
Dull Prop...

[Capey500]

this is sort of a cheap answer but the rudder required is whatever becomes necessary to keep the ball (on the turn/slip indicator) centered. At this stage of your flight training you should be referencing this instrument quite often, and over time you'll have to use it less and less.

You'll come to find that there are no absolutes in aviation. In many high powered piston airplanes you need no left rudder in a left turn... you need merely a reduction in right rudder force. This is an excellent example of the airplanes inherent left turning tendency!

So... whatever it takes!

As for stalls, always pick up the low wing with the rudders. If the left wing drops, kick right rudder (this will increase the speed of the left wing allowing it to roll back to level).

Ask your instructor to demonstrate a 'falling leaf'. This is a maneuver where the aircraft is kept in a stalled condition so the student has a chance to control the airplane only by rudder pressure. The yoke should be held full aft and not moved (the yoke does not control the wings in a stall!!)

Hope some of this information helps. Good luck

[c150driver]

Capey500, I agree. However if a new pilot really wants to understand what a rudder is about, then you should pilot an older Taylorcraft (my experience, other old planes haven't reacted so obviously). All the descriptions in all the books didn't make sense to me until I turned the wheel "right" and the plane went "left". Wow, what an eye opener. The planes' reaction was _not_ subtle like in a modern Cessna or Piper. After about 30 minutes all my coordination started happening together. eek!